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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the Newark, Delaware area , which hosts the University of Delaware. I love living in a &quot;college town&quot;. Northern Delaware tends to lean more liberal and open while the 2 other counties, central and Southern (the southern county borders on Virginia) are far more conservative. Having a large student population tends to make the area far more open to experiences of same sex PDA&#039;s, at least in my short time here (about 5 years). BTW, I know you&#039;ve had (reading your blog) some awful experiences in Philly, but I&#039;ve had some really good ones too. I suspect a variety of experiences are available to people which would have them come away with varying persceptions (btw, of course the experiences are real for each person, would never tell you otherwise!).&lt;br/&gt;Jerry - who is visiting friends in Elkins, WV and can&#039;t believe how many Obama signs there are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the Newark, Delaware area , which hosts the University of Delaware. I love living in a &#8220;college town&#8221;. Northern Delaware tends to lean more liberal and open while the 2 other counties, central and Southern (the southern county borders on Virginia) are far more conservative. Having a large student population tends to make the area far more open to experiences of same sex PDA&#8217;s, at least in my short time here (about 5 years). BTW, I know you&#8217;ve had (reading your blog) some awful experiences in Philly, but I&#8217;ve had some really good ones too. I suspect a variety of experiences are available to people which would have them come away with varying persceptions (btw, of course the experiences are real for each person, would never tell you otherwise!).<br />Jerry &#8211; who is visiting friends in Elkins, WV and can&#8217;t believe how many Obama signs there are!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2008/07/holding-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Colorado Springs, I was always on edge when holding my (female) partner&#039;s hand, and often didn&#039;t feel comfortable doing it on a regular basis.  While we didn&#039;t experience much discrimination ourselves, we&#039;d heard stories from friends, classmates, and professors.   In Albuquerque, my high school girlfriend and I got whistled and catcalled while holding hands, but the environment here has generally felt less oppressive than in the Springs.  I felt most free in San Francisco, where two women holding hands hardly warranted a second glance.  In Paris, it didn&#039;t seem to matter, either, but even friends seemed more comfortable showing affection towards each other in general. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I started dating men, I was really quite hesitant about too much PDA.   Since I had heterosexual privilege, I didn&#039;t want to seem like I was flaunting it (plus, I had to come to terms with the fact that I could be attracted to men, again, and I had some identity issues with that).   I was still cautious, but mostly because I was used to feeling cautious.  It felt weird for me that people didn&#039;t even blink an eye.  Now, I do show more affection with my current male partner in public, and it&#039;s the most I&#039;ve ever shown.  I am proud to show that we&#039;re together.   Now, I think I would feel more comfortable holding anyone&#039;s hand in public - friend or lover -  with pride, but I think that has a lot to do with feeling more comfortable with myself and my identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Colorado Springs, I was always on edge when holding my (female) partner&#8217;s hand, and often didn&#8217;t feel comfortable doing it on a regular basis.  While we didn&#8217;t experience much discrimination ourselves, we&#8217;d heard stories from friends, classmates, and professors.   In Albuquerque, my high school girlfriend and I got whistled and catcalled while holding hands, but the environment here has generally felt less oppressive than in the Springs.  I felt most free in San Francisco, where two women holding hands hardly warranted a second glance.  In Paris, it didn&#8217;t seem to matter, either, but even friends seemed more comfortable showing affection towards each other in general. </p>
<p>When I started dating men, I was really quite hesitant about too much PDA.   Since I had heterosexual privilege, I didn&#8217;t want to seem like I was flaunting it (plus, I had to come to terms with the fact that I could be attracted to men, again, and I had some identity issues with that).   I was still cautious, but mostly because I was used to feeling cautious.  It felt weird for me that people didn&#8217;t even blink an eye.  Now, I do show more affection with my current male partner in public, and it&#8217;s the most I&#8217;ve ever shown.  I am proud to show that we&#8217;re together.   Now, I think I would feel more comfortable holding anyone&#8217;s hand in public &#8211; friend or lover &#8211;  with pride, but I think that has a lot to do with feeling more comfortable with myself and my identity.</p>
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		<title>By: ladybrettashley</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2008/07/holding-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>ladybrettashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interestingly, i live in a place (the south) where there are consistent, active efforts to take away the rights of us gay folks - one of those places where people do believe, and say, exactly what roland mentioned - but i have never felt unsafe here. because, well, it&#039;s the south, and whatever we may think of &quot;that lifestyle&quot; we are still &lt;i&gt;polite&lt;/i&gt; to strangers (it&#039;s friends and family that cause all the damage, as far as i&#039;ve seen in folks i know). plus, i am in a nice little city, so we even get &quot;aww y&#039;all are so cute&quot; smiles as well as folks just ignoring us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;the only place i&#039;ve run into &quot;public&quot; homophobia was, in fact, in europe. but northern ireland is a bit spiky in all respects, so i suppose it only had a little to do with being gay =)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;also, roland - what&#039;s in our constitution here seems to have less and less impact on how we live or (notably) govern. but i&#039;m just a disgruntled hippy liberal ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interestingly, i live in a place (the south) where there are consistent, active efforts to take away the rights of us gay folks &#8211; one of those places where people do believe, and say, exactly what roland mentioned &#8211; but i have never felt unsafe here. because, well, it&#8217;s the south, and whatever we may think of &#8220;that lifestyle&#8221; we are still <i>polite</i> to strangers (it&#8217;s friends and family that cause all the damage, as far as i&#8217;ve seen in folks i know). plus, i am in a nice little city, so we even get &#8220;aww y&#8217;all are so cute&#8221; smiles as well as folks just ignoring us.</p>
<p>the only place i&#8217;ve run into &#8220;public&#8221; homophobia was, in fact, in europe. but northern ireland is a bit spiky in all respects, so i suppose it only had a little to do with being gay =)</p>
<p>also, roland &#8211; what&#8217;s in our constitution here seems to have less and less impact on how we live or (notably) govern. but i&#8217;m just a disgruntled hippy liberal ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Hulme</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2008/07/holding-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Hulme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, one of the most astoundingly weird things about moving to America is how the whole &#039;homosexuality is unnatural/sinful&#039; argument is actually taken seriously here. It boggles my mind! In the states, a large number of people (normally very, very stupid people) actually rant and rave about it as if it&#039;s a legitimate belief and not just intolerant dumbness!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Considering America is the land of the free and the right to have a relationship (or marry) with anybody you like is technically instilled in our constitution, I find it REALLY weird and disturbing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Loving vs. Virginia - the supreme court case which allowed interracial marriage -  is documented proof of this. The judge&#039;s ruling NEVER mentioned gender - just that the right to marry who you want regardless was inalienable, covered by &#039;the pursuit of happiness&#039; in the Declaration of Independence.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So technically, America should be more gay friendly than any other country in the world.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t know. For this particular European (i.e. me), it&#039;s one of the things that highlight that stark differences between American and European culture. I&#039;ve lived in UK and France and always believe that France is closer to England than America is (and somebody once said that lesbianism was to France what cricket was to England.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I adore America - love it to bits - but this particular facet of popular culture is one that makes me uncomfortable (and I&#039;m straight - just a bit of a hippy liberal, according to some.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can understand your reluctance to have PDA given some people&#039;s opinions on the subject. I commend your bravery for not letting it hold you back in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, one of the most astoundingly weird things about moving to America is how the whole &#8216;homosexuality is unnatural/sinful&#8217; argument is actually taken seriously here. It boggles my mind! In the states, a large number of people (normally very, very stupid people) actually rant and rave about it as if it&#8217;s a legitimate belief and not just intolerant dumbness!</p>
<p>Considering America is the land of the free and the right to have a relationship (or marry) with anybody you like is technically instilled in our constitution, I find it REALLY weird and disturbing.</p>
<p>Loving vs. Virginia &#8211; the supreme court case which allowed interracial marriage &#8211;  is documented proof of this. The judge&#8217;s ruling NEVER mentioned gender &#8211; just that the right to marry who you want regardless was inalienable, covered by &#8216;the pursuit of happiness&#8217; in the Declaration of Independence.</p>
<p>So technically, America should be more gay friendly than any other country in the world.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. For this particular European (i.e. me), it&#8217;s one of the things that highlight that stark differences between American and European culture. I&#8217;ve lived in UK and France and always believe that France is closer to England than America is (and somebody once said that lesbianism was to France what cricket was to England.)</p>
<p>I adore America &#8211; love it to bits &#8211; but this particular facet of popular culture is one that makes me uncomfortable (and I&#8217;m straight &#8211; just a bit of a hippy liberal, according to some.)</p>
<p>I can understand your reluctance to have PDA given some people&#8217;s opinions on the subject. I commend your bravery for not letting it hold you back in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha Sappho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha Sappho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>silly comment which is totally not the point of the post, but... which bar? I don&#039;t know that I totally know what rockabilly means, so I&#039;m trying to place the specific incident you&#039;re referring to. (There are, of course, several occasions on which we&#039;ve held hands.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;lovelovelove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>silly comment which is totally not the point of the post, but&#8230; which bar? I don&#8217;t know that I totally know what rockabilly means, so I&#8217;m trying to place the specific incident you&#8217;re referring to. (There are, of course, several occasions on which we&#8217;ve held hands.) </p>
<p>lovelovelove.</p>
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		<title>By: Essin' Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essin' Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy that you enjoy where you live. However, please don&#039;t tell me &quot;it is not really that bad.&quot;  It not be for you, but it was pretty hellish at times for me...where it cause anxiety, heartburn, nights of sobbing, feeling completely alone, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So while I completely validate your experience in Philly, I ask that you don&#039;t try to &quot;convince&quot; me that my experience was any different than I experienced it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m sorry you don&#039;t understand it.  If you&#039;d read my blog for the last two years, perhaps you&#039;d understand a little bit better my dislike for the city of &quot;brotherly love.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Essin&#039; Em</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy that you enjoy where you live. However, please don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;it is not really that bad.&#8221;  It not be for you, but it was pretty hellish at times for me&#8230;where it cause anxiety, heartburn, nights of sobbing, feeling completely alone, etc.</p>
<p>So while I completely validate your experience in Philly, I ask that you don&#8217;t try to &#8220;convince&#8221; me that my experience was any different than I experienced it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you don&#8217;t understand it.  If you&#8217;d read my blog for the last two years, perhaps you&#8217;d understand a little bit better my dislike for the city of &#8220;brotherly love.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Essin&#8217; Em</p>
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		<title>By: Essin' Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essin' Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy that you enjoy where you live. However, please don&#039;t tell me &quot;it is not really that bad.&quot;  It not be for you, but it was pretty hellish at times for me...where it cause anxiety, heartburn, nights of sobbing, feeling completely alone, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So while I completely validate your experience in Philly, I ask that you don&#039;t try to &quot;convince&quot; me that my experience was any different than I experienced it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m sorry you don&#039;t understand it.  If you&#039;d read my blog for the last two years, perhaps you&#039;d understand a little bit better my dislike for the city of &quot;brotherly love.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Essin&#039; Em</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy that you enjoy where you live. However, please don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;it is not really that bad.&#8221;  It not be for you, but it was pretty hellish at times for me&#8230;where it cause anxiety, heartburn, nights of sobbing, feeling completely alone, etc.</p>
<p>So while I completely validate your experience in Philly, I ask that you don&#8217;t try to &#8220;convince&#8221; me that my experience was any different than I experienced it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you don&#8217;t understand it.  If you&#8217;d read my blog for the last two years, perhaps you&#8217;d understand a little bit better my dislike for the city of &#8220;brotherly love.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Essin&#8217; Em</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really seem to have a serious dislike for Philadelphia, this is something that I do not entirely understand. Obviously not everyone has the same experience but it is not really that bad. I say this as a young, femme, dyke who is navigating her own way through the Philly gay community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really seem to have a serious dislike for Philadelphia, this is something that I do not entirely understand. Obviously not everyone has the same experience but it is not really that bad. I say this as a young, femme, dyke who is navigating her own way through the Philly gay community.</p>
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