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		<title>By: julian</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2009/11/femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10550</link>
		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, and yes. Good to hear more about femme invisibility. It&#039;s been on the tips of people&#039;s tongues lately. 

&gt;&gt; I have had people tell me I’m not a good queer/ feminist because I’m holding on to the butch/femme dynamic…which is silly, because MY identify is as a Femme, but I don’t expect anyone else to identify as femme or butch, or anything else, nor am I only attracted to butch/masculine presenting people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and yes. Good to hear more about femme invisibility. It&#8217;s been on the tips of people&#8217;s tongues lately. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; I have had people tell me I’m not a good queer/ feminist because I’m holding on to the butch/femme dynamic…which is silly, because MY identify is as a Femme, but I don’t expect anyone else to identify as femme or butch, or anything else, nor am I only attracted to butch/masculine presenting people.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2009/11/femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10525</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post. As a femme appearing queer woman, who still isn&#039;t sure how I feel about &quot;femme&quot; an identity for myself, I&#039;m glad to see so much discussion about this.

I blogged about it too, but my blog is not near the caliber of yours or Sinclair&#039;s. http://feelersout.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/on-femme-invisibility/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post. As a femme appearing queer woman, who still isn&#8217;t sure how I feel about &#8220;femme&#8221; an identity for myself, I&#8217;m glad to see so much discussion about this.</p>
<p>I blogged about it too, but my blog is not near the caliber of yours or Sinclair&#8217;s. <a href="http://feelersout.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/on-femme-invisibility/" rel="nofollow">http://feelersout.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/on-femme-invisibility/</a></p>
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		<title>By: alphafemme</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2009/11/femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10523</link>
		<dc:creator>alphafemme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know *exactly* what you mean about how awesome and hot it is to be recognized and easily accepted as femme. Yep, *bam*!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know *exactly* what you mean about how awesome and hot it is to be recognized and easily accepted as femme. Yep, *bam*!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2009/11/femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10522</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I definitely think the way you identify shouldn&#039;t invalidate your queerness. I dated a trans guy for a while, and he was pretty far along in the process, and I thought it was strange to be read as a straight couple. So I get it. 

I don&#039;t think you should have to give up your style to please anybody. Ever. 

In the Black community I think there is a bigger emphasis on the stud/femme dynamic than in the LGBTQ community at large, and it REALLY bothers me. I&#039;m not dyke-y enough for the femmes, not &quot;feminine&quot; enough for the studs bc I don&#039;t wear a face full of makeup? All I can do is be me and be true to myself (which I feel is the answer to most, if not all, of life&#039;s problems). 

This blog definitely struck a chord. Good job, essin-em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I definitely think the way you identify shouldn&#8217;t invalidate your queerness. I dated a trans guy for a while, and he was pretty far along in the process, and I thought it was strange to be read as a straight couple. So I get it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you should have to give up your style to please anybody. Ever. </p>
<p>In the Black community I think there is a bigger emphasis on the stud/femme dynamic than in the LGBTQ community at large, and it REALLY bothers me. I&#8217;m not dyke-y enough for the femmes, not &#8220;feminine&#8221; enough for the studs bc I don&#8217;t wear a face full of makeup? All I can do is be me and be true to myself (which I feel is the answer to most, if not all, of life&#8217;s problems). </p>
<p>This blog definitely struck a chord. Good job, essin-em!</p>
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		<title>By: Essin' Em</title>
		<link>http://essin-em.com/2009/11/femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10521</link>
		<dc:creator>Essin' Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have to say, that in my experience, there isn&#039;t so much a push (as least on the coasts and in Denver) on the masculine/feminine recreation. Rather, I got a lot of grief FOR identifying as femme, instead of giving it up, and becoming the more trendy &quot;andro-dyke.&quot; I have had people tell me I&#039;m not a good queer/ feminist because I&#039;m holding  on to the butch/femme dynamic...which is silly, because MY identify is as a Femme, but I don&#039;t expect anyone else to identify as femme or butch, or anything else, nor am I only attracted to butch/masculine presenting people.

Britni - I look forward to reading your post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have to say, that in my experience, there isn&#8217;t so much a push (as least on the coasts and in Denver) on the masculine/feminine recreation. Rather, I got a lot of grief FOR identifying as femme, instead of giving it up, and becoming the more trendy &#8220;andro-dyke.&#8221; I have had people tell me I&#8217;m not a good queer/ feminist because I&#8217;m holding  on to the butch/femme dynamic&#8230;which is silly, because MY identify is as a Femme, but I don&#8217;t expect anyone else to identify as femme or butch, or anything else, nor am I only attracted to butch/masculine presenting people.</p>
<p>Britni &#8211; I look forward to reading your post!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kim makes a valid point, though to my knowledge a lot of LGBTQ communities are moving away from the masculine/feminine stereotypical relationship.  However, it&#039;s definitely a process that will take some time - especially to reach the smaller communities.  I doubt it&#039;s nearly so much of a &quot;problem&quot; somewhere like NYC, versus my own small Texas town.  At the same time though, if that&#039;s what someone&#039;s preference is... who are we to say it&#039;s bad?

I think it will take a lot for the LGBTQ community to be more open.  Why?  Because we fight so hard every day to establish that our relationships are valid, and that we&#039;re valid as people.  It&#039;s hard to give up that fight when you go to the bar, simply because you learn to live in the trenches of everyday life.  Though it&#039;s a poor comparison, think of a soldier with post-traumatic stress disorder.  

Clothes, hairstyles, tattoos, fashion, etc. were the only identifiers that we had in the past.  And now, they&#039;re so deeply embedded in our community that if you aren&#039;t &quot;up to par&quot; you&#039;re seen as an outsider.  I definitely fall into this category, and I hate it.  I hate that with my last ex I was very visible as a lesbian because she was so obviously gay, whereas now being single I have become totally invisible.  I look horrible with short hair!  My body type (and personal taste) isn&#039;t suited to masculine clothing.  And I&#039;m not going to change who I am just to get a date!  

I think the LGBTQ community needs to come down off of their high horse and stop being so judgemental.  If someone is at a gay bar, they&#039;re gay!  Guilty until proven innocent, okay?  Or if some &quot;straight looking&quot; girl is making eye contact with you, then odds are... she&#039;s into you.  Until people learn to stop judging a book by it&#039;s cover, they&#039;re going to be missing out on a lot of wonderful women - myself included!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kim makes a valid point, though to my knowledge a lot of LGBTQ communities are moving away from the masculine/feminine stereotypical relationship.  However, it&#8217;s definitely a process that will take some time &#8211; especially to reach the smaller communities.  I doubt it&#8217;s nearly so much of a &#8220;problem&#8221; somewhere like NYC, versus my own small Texas town.  At the same time though, if that&#8217;s what someone&#8217;s preference is&#8230; who are we to say it&#8217;s bad?</p>
<p>I think it will take a lot for the LGBTQ community to be more open.  Why?  Because we fight so hard every day to establish that our relationships are valid, and that we&#8217;re valid as people.  It&#8217;s hard to give up that fight when you go to the bar, simply because you learn to live in the trenches of everyday life.  Though it&#8217;s a poor comparison, think of a soldier with post-traumatic stress disorder.  </p>
<p>Clothes, hairstyles, tattoos, fashion, etc. were the only identifiers that we had in the past.  And now, they&#8217;re so deeply embedded in our community that if you aren&#8217;t &#8220;up to par&#8221; you&#8217;re seen as an outsider.  I definitely fall into this category, and I hate it.  I hate that with my last ex I was very visible as a lesbian because she was so obviously gay, whereas now being single I have become totally invisible.  I look horrible with short hair!  My body type (and personal taste) isn&#8217;t suited to masculine clothing.  And I&#8217;m not going to change who I am just to get a date!  </p>
<p>I think the LGBTQ community needs to come down off of their high horse and stop being so judgemental.  If someone is at a gay bar, they&#8217;re gay!  Guilty until proven innocent, okay?  Or if some &#8220;straight looking&#8221; girl is making eye contact with you, then odds are&#8230; she&#8217;s into you.  Until people learn to stop judging a book by it&#8217;s cover, they&#8217;re going to be missing out on a lot of wonderful women &#8211; myself included!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a big problem with the use of labels in the queer community. Am I queer? Sure. Do I fit into the category of femme, butch, aggressive femme, soft stud, etc? No. I&#039;m just me. I think we should stop trying to fit in and stop caring so much about how we are perceived by others. Do I understand the concern? Yes, but I don&#039;t think femme invisibility is the problem. I think the problem is that people in the LGBTQ community work really hard to mirror the masculine-feminine relationships in the straight world.

There! I said it, and I stand by it. I think it&#039;s great that you posted this because honestly it is a problem. What you decide to wear that day should not (and does not) define you. I wish every non-straight person would just be true to themselves. That would aleviate a lot of the &quot;not-looking-gay-enough&quot; problem. Being queer is more than clothes, hairstyles, etc. It&#039;s about sexual preference, and that&#039;s a very tiny part of what makes a person who they are. 

*steps off of soapbox*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a big problem with the use of labels in the queer community. Am I queer? Sure. Do I fit into the category of femme, butch, aggressive femme, soft stud, etc? No. I&#8217;m just me. I think we should stop trying to fit in and stop caring so much about how we are perceived by others. Do I understand the concern? Yes, but I don&#8217;t think femme invisibility is the problem. I think the problem is that people in the LGBTQ community work really hard to mirror the masculine-feminine relationships in the straight world.</p>
<p>There! I said it, and I stand by it. I think it&#8217;s great that you posted this because honestly it is a problem. What you decide to wear that day should not (and does not) define you. I wish every non-straight person would just be true to themselves. That would aleviate a lot of the &#8220;not-looking-gay-enough&#8221; problem. Being queer is more than clothes, hairstyles, etc. It&#8217;s about sexual preference, and that&#8217;s a very tiny part of what makes a person who they are. </p>
<p>*steps off of soapbox*</p>
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		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m planning a post on this on my own blog eventually. Sinclair&#039;s post was fantastic, too. But femme invisibility is a very real thing. I&#039;m queer, and date women, men, trans, whatever. But I&#039;ve always gravitated towards men because the queer dating scene has been so frustrating for me. 

I get sick of asking which friends I came to dyke night with. I&#039;m sick of going out and having people ask who brought the straight chick. I&#039;m sick of being out with a girl, especially if she&#039;s femme, too, and having guys assume that because we both look &quot;straight&quot; that we must be there for their own pleasure and entertainment. I&#039;m sick of it all. 

I&#039;m at dyke night because I want to pick up a girl. If I didn&#039;t, I&#039;d go to the straight bar across the street. The *only* time I&#039;ve ever been hit on at a girls&#039; bar is the night I went in a white tee, men&#039;s camo cargo shorts, and Chucks. And it pissed me off. Why should I have to change the way I look and I dress, just to convince people that I&#039;m queer? I cut all my hair off, just to try and get more girls to hit on me. But again, it wasn&#039;t *me.*

I can be femme and feminine and still be queer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning a post on this on my own blog eventually. Sinclair&#8217;s post was fantastic, too. But femme invisibility is a very real thing. I&#8217;m queer, and date women, men, trans, whatever. But I&#8217;ve always gravitated towards men because the queer dating scene has been so frustrating for me. </p>
<p>I get sick of asking which friends I came to dyke night with. I&#8217;m sick of going out and having people ask who brought the straight chick. I&#8217;m sick of being out with a girl, especially if she&#8217;s femme, too, and having guys assume that because we both look &#8220;straight&#8221; that we must be there for their own pleasure and entertainment. I&#8217;m sick of it all. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m at dyke night because I want to pick up a girl. If I didn&#8217;t, I&#8217;d go to the straight bar across the street. The *only* time I&#8217;ve ever been hit on at a girls&#8217; bar is the night I went in a white tee, men&#8217;s camo cargo shorts, and Chucks. And it pissed me off. Why should I have to change the way I look and I dress, just to convince people that I&#8217;m queer? I cut all my hair off, just to try and get more girls to hit on me. But again, it wasn&#8217;t *me.*</p>
<p>I can be femme and feminine and still be queer.</p>
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